We were going to do an update of 20 minutes, a half hour, a little bit of the trial, that’s it. After the verdict, I asked the field producer to talk to the jurors and see what it was that convinced them. She went there and called and said, “I got the most bizarre conversation.” She said, “You’ve got to come, you’ve got to listen.” I was in the middle of another show, but I went there, and there he was Marvin [Shackelford] saying, ‘The man didn’t get justice, the man didn’t get justice." If he said it once, he said it a hundred times. We said, let’s shoot it.

Things don’t look good for Betsy. I worry about her…

I’ll tell you something: I was scared by all that came out [during the trial]. I was one of those who thinks the system works, don’t you? I’m very shaken by it. Also by the zeal of the prosecution. He thinks we are vicious, out to help [the defense]. It doesn’t occur to them that maybe something was really wrong and the trial was wrong, that it was not fair.

If you’d asked me a month ago, I’d have laughed. I don’t know. It becomes so that you met quite leave it. I can’t believe if it does go on that I can look at it and shrug.